Real conversations with people doing genuinely interesting things — hosted by a son, his mama, and whoever they can talk into joining them.
We — Alex and his mama, Jessica — created this podcast to have an engaging conversation with mamas and your adult child(ren) about your intriguing achievements.
And, subtly, to amplify positive narratives about mothering. Of course, we recognize that motherhood is not just sunshine and rainbows. Maternal ambivalence is real. But it is our contention that even inevitably flawed mothering can still be good mothering.
The world is in need of these stories.
If you want the longer, more academic version of Jessica's thinking on this, she wrote about maternal ambivalence for the Museum of Motherhood back in 2010:
Read "On Maternal Ambivalence" ↗
Fair warning — Jessica's words — it's verbose, in the best way.
A short introduction to the show, the hosts, and why we're doing this in the first place.
Still just the two of us — a longer, deeper introduction to who we are and why we're doing this before we bring anyone else to the table.
Apologies for the minor issues with Jessica's audio at the beginning of this episode — we hadn't quite worked out the tech we wanted to use at that point. Thanks for bearing with us!









If you've done something intriguing — big or small — we'd love to sit down and talk about it. Pick a time that works for you and we'll take it from there.